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Why Cipsoft does not give to us full information regarding changes made in the game?

<p style="text-align:justify">Hey everyone, one thing that really bothered me recently: Why Cipsoft does not tend to publish the exactly changes made in the game usually?</p><p style="text-align:justify"></p><p style="text-align:justify">I've seen it before, when there is a nerf change or a experience change, I feel that the company purposedly does not publishes all of the details of the changes. This really bothers me because on several games you can read the description of changes executed with a high level of details. I don't really see on why Cipsoft tends to release vague information regarding changes.</p><p style="text-align:justify"></p><p style="text-align:justify">A great and recent example would be the change related to the last game patch, with several monsters that had their loot or xp altered: https://www.tibia.com/forum/?action=announcement&amp;announcementid=98&amp;boardid=89516</p><hr><table cellpadding="4" border="1" style="border-spacing: 0px;"><tbody><tr><td border="1"><tbody><tr><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Hunting Ground</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>New Focus</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Change in Gold Gain</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Change in XP Gain</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Affected Monsters</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td style="height:61px"><p>Grounds of Plague</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:61px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Plaguesmith</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Destruction</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:191px"><p>Secret Library</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:191px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Rage Squid</li><li style="text-align:justify">Burning Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Guardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align:justify">Icecold Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Suid Warden</li><li style="text-align:justify">Animated Feather</li><li style="text-align:justify">Biting Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Energetic Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Energuardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align:justify">Ink Blob</li><li style="text-align:justify">Brain Squid</li><li style="text-align:justify">Knowledge Elemental</li><li style="text-align:justify">Cursed Book</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:48px"><p>Deep Desert</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:48px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Skeleton Elite Warrior<sup>1</sup></li><li style="text-align:justify">Undead Elite Gladiator<sup>2</sup></li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Damnation</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>significant decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Asura Palace</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dawnfire Asura</li><li style="text-align:justify">Midnight Asura</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Despair</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Spectre</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:139px"><p>Rathleton Catacombs</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>no change<br>(apart from slightly decreased Hellhound)</p></td><td style="height:139px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align:justify">Destroyer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Grim Reaper</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Devourer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Anemone</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Carnivora's Rocks</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Spiky Carnivor</li><li style="text-align:justify">Menacing Carnivor</li><li style="text-align:justify">Lumbering Carnivor</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Halls of Ascension</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Plaguesmith</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Grounds of Fire</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellfire Fighter</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Nightmare Isles</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align:justify">Retching Horror</li><li style="text-align:justify">Silencer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Roshamuul</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Silencer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Frazzlemaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Guzzlemaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align:justify">Retching Horror</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Ancient Ancestorial Grounds</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Deathling Scout</li><li style="text-align:justify">Deathling Spellsinger</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Buried Cathedral</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align:justify">Gazer Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Burster Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Ripper Spectre</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Dream Labyrinth</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Winter Rearguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Winter Vanguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Summer Rearguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Summer Vanguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align:justify">Insane Siren</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory South</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Oramond Mountain Hideout</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Nightmare</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory West</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Anemone</li><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Devourer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="text-align:justify"><sup>1</sup> From now on walks also across earth fields.</p><p><sup>2</sup> From now on walks also across energy fields.</p><hr><p><strong>In the post above made by Skeerio (community Manager), Cipsoft AVOIDS mentioning the exactly number, </strong>which would be a much more simple way of explaining what happened after the update.</p><p>Even worse than that, after changing for the first time, they did <strong>ANOTHER extra change</strong> and didn't bothered again on inserting the correct experience value of each mob.</p><p>Anyway, is there any place where a CM explain on why we have to request sometimes basic information related to changes instead of having it served to us?</p>
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Edited Jan 30, 2020 by FPoPP

Why Cipsoft does not give to us full information regarding changes made in the game?

<p style="text-align: justify;">Hey style="text-align:justify">Hey everyone, one thing that really bothered me recently: Why Cipsoft does not tend to publish the exactly changes made in the game usually?</p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;">I've style="text-align:justify"></p><p style="text-align:justify">I've seen it before, when there is a nerf change or a experience change, I feel that the company purposedly does not publishes all of the details of the changes. This really bothers me because on several games you can read the description of changes executed with a high level of details. I don't really see on why Cipsoft tends to release vague information regarding changes.</p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;">A style="text-align:justify"></p><p style="text-align:justify">A great and recent example would be the change related to the last game patch, with several monsters that had their loot or xp altered: https://www.tibia.com/forum/?action=announcement&amp;announcementid=98&amp;boardid=89516</p><hr><table cellpadding="4" border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse; border:double; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt; mso-yfti-tbllook:1184; border-spacing: 0px;" class="MsoNormalTable"><tbody><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>Hunting Ground</strong></div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>New Focus</strong></div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>Change style="border-spacing: 0px;"><tbody><tr><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Hunting Ground</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>New Focus</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Change in Gold Gain</strong></div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>Change Gain</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Change in XP Gain</strong></div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>Affected Monsters</strong></div></td></tr><tr><td style="height:61px"><div style="text-align: center;">Grounds of Plague</div></td><td style="height:61px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:61px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:61px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td Gain</strong></p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><strong>Affected Monsters</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td style="height:61px"><p>Grounds of Plague</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:61px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:61px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Plaguesmith</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">Grounds of Destruction</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Fury</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:191px"><div style="text-align: center;">Secret Library</div></td><td style="height:191px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:191px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:191px"><div style="text-align: center;">slight decrease</div></td><td style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Plaguesmith</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Destruction</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:191px"><p>Secret Library</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:191px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:191px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Rage Squid</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Burning Book</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Guardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Icecold Book</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Suid style="text-align:justify">Rage Squid</li><li style="text-align:justify">Burning Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Guardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align:justify">Icecold Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Suid Warden</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Animated style="text-align:justify">Animated Feather</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Biting Book</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Energetic Book</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Energuardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Ink style="text-align:justify">Biting Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Energetic Book</li><li style="text-align:justify">Energuardian of Tales</li><li style="text-align:justify">Ink Blob</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Brain Squid</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Knowledge style="text-align:justify">Brain Squid</li><li style="text-align:justify">Knowledge Elemental</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Cursed style="text-align:justify">Cursed Book</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:48px"><div style="text-align: center;">Deep Desert</div></td><td style="height:48px"><div style="text-align: center;">Gold</div></td><td style="height:48px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:48px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:48px"><p>Deep Desert</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:48px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:48px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Skeleton style="text-align:justify">Skeleton Elite Warrior<sup>1</sup></li><li style="text-align: justify;">Undead style="text-align:justify">Undead Elite Gladiator<sup>2</sup></li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">Grounds of Damnation</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Damnation</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>significant decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">Asura Palace</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Dawnfire Asura</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Midnight Asura</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;">Grounds of Despair</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Spectre</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:139px"><div style="text-align: center;">Rathleton Catacombs</div></td><td style="height:139px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:139px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:139px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Asura Palace</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dawnfire Asura</li><li style="text-align:justify">Midnight Asura</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:74px"><p>Grounds of Despair</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:74px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Spectre</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:139px"><p>Rathleton Catacombs</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:139px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>no change<br>(apart from slightly decreased Hellhound)</div></td><td Hellhound)</p></td><td style="height:139px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Destroyer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Grim style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellspawn</li><li style="text-align:justify">Destroyer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Grim Reaper</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">War Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Lower Glooth Factory</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Gold</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">War Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Devourer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Devourer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Anemone</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Carnivora's Rocks</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Gold</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Spiky Carnivor</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Menacing Carnivor</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Lumbering style="height:13px"><p>Carnivora's Rocks</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Spiky Carnivor</li><li style="text-align:justify">Menacing Carnivor</li><li style="text-align:justify">Lumbering Carnivor</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Halls of Ascension</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Plaguesmith</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Fury</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Grounds of Fire</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Fury</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellfire style="height:13px"><p>Halls of Ascension</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Juggernaut</li><li style="text-align:justify">Plaguesmith</li><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Grounds of Fire</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Gold</span><br>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">slight decrease</span><br>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">significant decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Vexclaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellflayer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Grimeleech</li><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Hellfire Fighter</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Nightmare Isles</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Retching style="text-align:justify">Hellhound</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Nightmare Isles</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align:justify">Retching Horror</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Silencer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Lower Roshamuul</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Silencer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Frazzlemaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Guzzlemaw</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Retching style="text-align:justify">Silencer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Roshamuul</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Silencer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Frazzlemaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Guzzlemaw</li><li style="text-align:justify">Choking Fear</li><li style="text-align:justify">Retching Horror</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Ancient style="height:13px"><p>Ancient Ancestorial Grounds</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Deathling Grounds</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Deathling Scout</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Deathling style="text-align:justify">Deathling Spellsinger</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Buried Cathedral</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Gazer Spectre</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Burster Spectre</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Ripper style="height:13px"><p>Buried Cathedral</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align:justify">Gazer Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Burster Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Ripper Spectre</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Dream Labyrinth</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">no change</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Crazed Winter Rearguard</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Crazed Winter Vanguard</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Crazed Summer Rearguard</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Crazed Summer Vanguard</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Insane style="height:13px"><p>Dream Labyrinth</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>no change</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Winter Rearguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Winter Vanguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Summer Rearguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Crazed Summer Vanguard</li><li style="text-align:justify">Arachnophobica</li><li style="text-align:justify">Insane Siren</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Lower Glooth Factory South</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">moderate decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">War style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory South</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>moderate decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Oramond style="height:13px"><p>Oramond Mountain Hideout</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Gold</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Fury</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Spectre</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Nightmare</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">Lower Glooth Factory West</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">XP</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><div style="text-align: center;">slight decrease</div></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth Hideout</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>Gold</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">moderate decrease</span><br>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Fury</li><li style="text-align:justify">Spectre</li><li style="text-align:justify">Nightmare</li><li style="text-align:justify">Dark Torturer</li></ul></td></tr><tr><td style="height:13px"><p>Lower Glooth Factory West</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>XP</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><p>slight decrease</p></td><td style="height:13px"><ul><li style="text-align:justify">Glooth Anemone</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Devourer</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align: justify;">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align: justify;">War style="text-align:justify">Glooth Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">Devourer</li><li style="text-align:justify">Metal Gargoyle</li><li style="text-align:justify">Rustheap Golem</li><li style="text-align:justify">War Golem</li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="text-align: justify;"><sup>1</sup> style="text-align:justify"><sup>1</sup> From now on walks also across earth fields.</p><div><sup>2</sup> fields.</p><p><sup>2</sup> From now on walks also across energy fields.</div><div></div><div><strong>In fields.</p><hr><p><strong>In the post above made by Skeerio, they DO NOT talk about Skeerio (community Manager), Cipsoft AVOIDS mentioning the exactly number, </strong>which would be a much more simple way of explaining what happened at the update.</div><div></div><div>Even after the update.</p><p>Even worse than that, after changing for the first time, they did ANOTHER <strong>ANOTHER extra change change</strong> and didn't bothered again on inserting the correct experience value. I don't see any other company doing that.</div><div></div><div>Anyway, value of each mob.</p><p>Anyway, is there any place where a CM explain on why we have to request sometimes basic information related to changes?</div>changes instead of having it served to us?</p>
Posted Jan 30, 2020 by FPoPP

Why Cipsoft does not give to us full information regarding changes made in the game?

Hey everyone, one thing that really bothered me recently: Why Cipsoft does not tend to publish the exactly changes made in the game usually?

I've seen it before, when there is a nerf change or a experience change, I feel that the company purposedly does not publishes all of the details of the changes. This really bothers me because on several games you can read the description of changes executed with a high level of details. I don't really see on why Cipsoft tends to release vague information regarding changes.

A great and recent example would be the change related to the last game patch, with several monsters that had their loot or xp altered: https://www.tibia.com/forum/?action=announcement&announcementid=98&boardid=89516


Hunting Ground
New Focus
Change in Gold Gain
Change in XP Gain
Affected Monsters
Grounds of Plague
Gold
XP
moderate decrease
significant decrease
slight decrease
  • Grimeleech
  • Hellflayer
  • Plaguesmith
Grounds of Destruction
Gold
XP
slight decrease
moderate decrease
significant decrease
slight decrease
  • Hellflayer
  • Juggernaut
  • Vexclaw
  • Fury
Secret Library
XP
moderate decrease
slight decrease
  • Rage Squid
  • Burning Book
  • Guardian of Tales
  • Icecold Book
  • Suid Warden
  • Animated Feather
  • Biting Book
  • Energetic Book
  • Energuardian of Tales
  • Ink Blob
  • Brain Squid
  • Knowledge Elemental
  • Cursed Book
Deep Desert
Gold
no change
moderate decrease
  • Skeleton Elite Warrior1
  • Undead Elite Gladiator2
Grounds of Damnation
Gold
XP
moderate decrease
significant decrease
significant decrease
slight decrease
  • Grimeleech
  • Hellflayer
  • Vexclaw
  • Dark Torturer
Asura Palace
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Hellspawn
  • Dawnfire Asura
  • Midnight Asura
  • Hellhound
Grounds of Despair
Gold
XP
slight decrease
moderate decrease
moderate decrease
slight decrease
  • Grimeleech
  • Hellflayer
  • Vexclaw
  • Spectre
Rathleton Catacombs
XP
moderate decrease
slight decrease
no change
(apart from slightly decreased Hellhound)
  • Juggernaut
  • Hellspawn
  • Destroyer
  • Grim Reaper
  • Dark Torturer
  • Glooth Golem
  • Rustheap Golem
  • War Golem
  • Hellhound
Lower Glooth Factory
Gold
moderate decrease
moderate decrease
  • Glooth Golem
  • Metal Gargoyle
  • Rustheap Golem
  • War Golem
  • Devourer
  • Glooth Anemone
Carnivora's Rocks
Gold
moderate decrease
moderate decrease
  • Spiky Carnivor
  • Menacing Carnivor
  • Lumbering Carnivor
Halls of Ascension
Gold
XP
slight decrease
moderate decrease
significant decrease
slight decrease
  • Grimeleech
  • Hellflayer
  • Juggernaut
  • Plaguesmith
  • Vexclaw
  • Dark Torturer
  • Fury
  • Hellhound
Grounds of Fire
Gold
XP
slight decrease
moderate decrease
significant decrease
slight decrease
  • Vexclaw
  • Hellflayer
  • Grimeleech
  • Fury
  • Hellfire Fighter
  • Hellhound
Nightmare Isles
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Choking Fear
  • Retching Horror
  • Silencer
Lower Roshamuul
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Silencer
  • Frazzlemaw
  • Guzzlemaw
  • Choking Fear
  • Retching Horror
Ancient Ancestorial Grounds
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Deathling Scout
  • Deathling Spellsinger
Buried Cathedral
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Arachnophobica
  • Gazer Spectre
  • Burster Spectre
  • Ripper Spectre
Dream Labyrinth
XP
moderate decrease
no change
  • Crazed Winter Rearguard
  • Crazed Winter Vanguard
  • Crazed Summer Rearguard
  • Crazed Summer Vanguard
  • Arachnophobica
  • Insane Siren
Lower Glooth Factory South
XP
moderate decrease
slight decrease
  • Glooth Golem
  • Metal Gargoyle
  • Rustheap Golem
  • War Golem
Oramond Mountain Hideout
Gold
slight decrease
moderate decrease
slight decrease
  • Fury
  • Spectre
  • Nightmare
  • Dark Torturer
Lower Glooth Factory West
XP
slight decrease
slight decrease
  • Glooth Anemone
  • Glooth Golem
  • Devourer
  • Metal Gargoyle
  • Rustheap Golem
  • War Golem

1 From now on walks also across earth fields.

2 From now on walks also across energy fields.
In the post above made by Skeerio, they DO NOT talk about the exactly number, which would be a much more simple way of explaining what happened at the update.
Even worse than that, after changing for the first time, they did ANOTHER extra change and didn't bothered again on inserting the correct experience value. I don't see any other company doing that.
Anyway, is there any place where a CM explain on why we have to request sometimes basic information related to changes?
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