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Current revisionEdited Nov 9, 2023 by Xarkost
<p>Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund compound ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.<br>Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.</p><p>The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose worse the more protection you have.</p><ul><li>Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81<br><br>So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.<br>&nbsp;</li><li><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Method 2:</span> <strong>Not very good method</strong>. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99<sup>(10+10) </sup>= 0.99<sup>(20)</sup> = 0.8179.<br>In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.<br><br>E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion protection (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be<br>(100 * 0.99<sup>80</sup> = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.<br>So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.</li></ul><p>I would recommend the first method and please keep in mind that <strong>physical protection</strong> is <strong>applied after armor</strong>.</p><p>For more information about protection damage and what damage physical protection will reduce you should read tibia-stats articles about shielding and armor.</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a></li></ul>
Edited Feb 18, 2021 by Xarkost
<p>Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.<br>Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.</p><p>The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose the more protection you have.</p><ul><li>Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81<br><br>So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.<br>&nbsp;</li><li><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Method 2:</span> <strong>Not very good method</strong>. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99<sup>(10+10) </sup>= 0.99<sup>(20)</sup> = 0.8179.<br>In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.<br><br>E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be<br>(100 * 0.99<sup>80</sup> = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.<br>So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.</li></ul><p>I would recomend recommend the first method and please keep in mind that <strong>physical protection</strong> is <strong>applied after armor</strong>.</p><p>For more information about protection damage and what damage physical protection will reduce you should read tibia-stats articles about shielding and armor.</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a></li></ul>
Edited Feb 5, 2018 by Ellotris Guardian
<p>Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.<br>Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.</p><p>The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose the more protection you have.</p><ul><li>Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81<br><br>So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.<br>&nbsp;</li><li><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Method 2:</span> <strong>Not very good method</strong>. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99<sup>(10+10) </sup>= 0.99<sup>(20)</sup> = 0.8179.<br>In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.<br><br>E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be<br>(100 * 0.99<sup>80</sup> = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.<br>So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.</li></ul><p>I would recomend the first method and please keep in mind that <strong>physical protection</strong> is <strong>applied after armor</strong>.</p><p>For more information about protection damage and what damage physical protection will reduce you should read tibia-stats articles about shielding and armor.<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a>:&nbsp; http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield<br>&nbsp;</p><p>/Utos</p>armor.</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a></li></ul>
Edited Feb 1, 2018 by Utos
<p>Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.<br>Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.</p><p>The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose the more protection you have.</p><ul><li>Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81<br><br>So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.<br>&nbsp;</li><li><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Method 2:</span> <strong>Not very good method</strong>. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99<sup>(10+10) </sup>= 0.99<sup>(20)</sup> = 0.8179.<br>In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.<br><br>E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be<br>(100 * 0.99<sup>80</sup> = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.<br>So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.</li></ul><p>I would recomend to you the first method and please keep in mind that <strong>physical protection</strong> is <strong>applied after armor</strong>.</p><p>For more information about protection damage and what damage physical protection will reduce you should read tibia-stats articles about shielding and armor.<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a>:&nbsp; http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield<br>&nbsp;</p><p>/Utos</p>
Edited Feb 1, 2018 by Utos
<p>Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.<br>Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.</p><p>The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose the more protection you have.</p><ul><li>Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81<br><br>So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.<br>&nbsp;</li><li><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Method 2:</span> <strong>Not very good method</strong>. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.<br>E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99<sup>(10+10) </sup>= 0.99<sup>(20)</sup> = 0.8179.<br>In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.<br><br>E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be<br>(100 * 0.99<sup>80</sup> = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.<br>So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.</li></ul><p>I would recomend to you the first method and please keep in mind that <strong>physical protection</strong> is <strong>applied after armor</strong>.</p><p>/Utos</p>armor</strong>.</p><p>For more information about protection damage and what damage physical protection will reduce you should read tibia-stats articles about shielding and armor.<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance">resistances</a>:&nbsp; http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=itemresistance<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor">armor</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=armor<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield">shielding</a>: http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=6003&amp;research=shield<br>&nbsp;</p><p>/Utos</p>
Posted Feb 1, 2018 by Utos

Damage reduction is not calculated flat. The damage you receive after reduction is instead a compund ratio of the reduction. E.g. If you take 100 damage without any reduction and you equip one 10% damage reduction item, you will now receive 90% damage. But if you equip two 10% protection items then you will now receive 81 damage instead of 100.
Please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.

The damage you take can be calculated in two ways, the first method gives you the exact reduction (not included rounding from a decimal number to an integer, i.e. you cant take 100.1 damage). The second method is quick and easy to use and remember but is not very exact, in fact the estimate will be worse and wose the more protection you have.

  • Method 1: Take (1 - protection ratio), where protection ratio is e.g. 0.1 if you have 10% protection, for all items and take the product of them.
    E.g. you have two 10% protection items, (1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.1) = 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.81

    So if you were to receive 100 damage without protection you will now receive 100 * 0.81 = 81 damage.
     
  • Method 2: Not very good method. Take 0.99 to the power of the total sum of protection.
    E.g. you have two 10% protection items, 0.99(10+10) = 0.99(20) = 0.8179.
    In reality it is 0.81, which means that it is 1% to high. With a lot of protection this will increase dramatically. In fact it will increase to more than 100% as can be seen below.

    E.g. you equip a item which gives you 80% protecion (stone skin amulet), this should make you take only 20 damage out of an original 100, but according to this calculation it would be
    (100 * 0.9980 = 100 * 0.4475 = 44.75 damage.
    So instead of 20 damage it tells you that you take 44.75 which is almost 125% more than in reality.

I would recomend to you the first method and please keep in mind that physical protection is applied after armor.

/Utos

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