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I want to know if there is a difference between the skill rate increase between the two and if you know if one was faster or more efficient and by how much. Inspired by:

What's the history of Target Dummy?

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And by Target Dummies you mean the ones you can put in houses or find in The Adventurer's guild right?
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<p>The training dummies are more efficient <strong>timewise </strong>since you can gain much more skills within a shorter period of time, for this I tested on my 130 ED that I'm currently training:</p><p><img alt="" src="https://www.tibiaqa.com/?qa=blob&amp;qa_blobid=7801896049793355130" style="height:419px; width:600px"></p><p>Pointing out what it says in the red square, that it took me 9 hours and 49 minutes to get roughly 2% of my magic level.</p><p>So timing out with a chronometer for the same 2% using a wand on each one of the available dummies:</p><p><strong>House Target dummies</strong> (10% extra skill per hour)<strong>:</strong> 1 minute and 15 seconds to get 2%<br><strong>"Public" Target Dummies</strong> (No extra percentage)<strong>: </strong>1 minute 05 seconds to get 2%</p><p>Now, <strong>moneywise</strong> it would be recommended to just train offline wether on a bed or a statue, since each wand with 500 charges costs 262,500 gps on any magic or house NPC</p>
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I'm not talking about exercise dummies I'm talking about target dummies which if you click history of target dummy it would show you which ones I meant. Sorry for the confusion.
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I was talking about target dummies and not exercise dummies. Good research though regarding exercise dummies. However, I did create a question regarding this if you want to take a look at it to answer.
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Just saw your comment I'm gonna hide the answer *Facepalm*
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Using the training calculator on tibia-stats.com (http://www.tibia-stats.com/index.php?akcja=skillCalc) Also, all of the offline times I mention will not include the time taken to regenerate any offline training if necessary.

For a Knight to get 1% of a melee skill from 100 to 101 would take 1 hour(s) 28 minute(s) 34 seconds of online skilling and 2 hour(s) 57 minute(s) 8 seconds offline. 

For a Knight to get 1% of a melee skill from 130 to 131 would take 1 day(s) 1 hour(s) 45 minute(s) 10 seconds of online skilling and 2 day(s) 3 hour(s) 30 minute(s) 20 seconds offline.

In both of these examples offline training takes exactly twice as long as online training.

If we use similar examples for a paladin to calculate distance it is a little different because for distance skill you get approximately twice the benefit for getting a "blood hit" on your target vs getting the hit blocked so you will see a bigger gap here. Again, offline training does not take into account the time taken to recover the offline training time. Also, the rate will change slightly based on what ammo you use. I ran these calculations with spears as they are cheap and you didn't have to worry about killing the Target Dummy.

For a Paladin to get 1% of a distance skill from 100 to 101 would take 30 minute(s) 12 seconds of online skilling and 2 hour(s) 12 minute(s) 50 seconds offline. 

For a Paladin to get 1% of a distance skill from 130 to 131 would take 8 hour(s) 46 minute(s) 46 seconds of online skilling and 1 day(s) 14 hour(s) 37 minute(s) 45 seconds offline.

In the first example with a bit of rounding offline training is 4.398x slower and in the second example it is 4.399x slower. So looks like we can assume 4.4x slower for offline training as a paladin. 

So in conclusion it looks like offline training a melee skill on a knight is 2x slower than online while offline training distance on a paladin is 4.4x slower than online. I guess this explains why we've seen melee skills close the gap on highscores compared to distance skills in the last few years.

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So a target dummy is the same as online training? I'm not talking about exercise dummies that you currently see I'm talking about the history of target dummies when they existed in Tela's basement.
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Yes, a target dummy was the same as any other online training. Whether you used slimes or monks. They were just something you could attack that wouldn't die.
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